dazzlingme 0 Report post Posted March 15, 2009 (edited) bluebeRRy i oled done 2 session MD. actually my face is reli becum more smooth after MD but my scar seem like still vry obvious. but since i oni done 2 session maybe cant c d result. honeylicious d nurse tell u nthing to do wif dehydration? then have u ask her any patient face tis problem b4? actually i vry doubtful dazzlingme is one of d staff of dr christina chea becoz she vry support dr christina chea. now i so worry for my 3rd session MD.. T.T I am very insulted and you obviously talk without even thinking !!!!I benefited a lot from the treatment and like I said, treatment results varies from individual ( if u were to look at my eaRlier posts )...it doesnt mean I AM HER STAFF JUST BECAUSE I SUPPORT OR BENEFITED FROM HER TREATMENT !!!!! after MD, ur pores will be more visible becoz the superficial layer of ur skin( dead skin cells ) has been removed so obviously ur pores are more visible but give it a week and it will go back to normal well that's FOR ME in fact i love it when my pores are visible it is so much more easier for me to extract the whiteheads and blackheads out ( let me clarify before someone accuses me of smth im not, it doesnt mean everyone will experience the same thing )...........oh and my skin will be dry after treatment so hydrator is a must and i stop all aha based or purifying skincare..once my skin is back to normal ill continue with my normal skincare stuffs. I am not a beautician for goodness sake and I dont work in her clinic , I have a full time job outside and I know sugababenice, I so happen to have my treatment there and being a nice person I offered to send sugababenice ( her face is red so red from doing microneedling ) back cuz she doesnt hv any transport!!! Ex88 : you definitely owe me one hell of a big apology. SHALL I make an appointment to see you the next time i HAVE my treatment done? or should I just LET YOU SEE MY PATIENT HISTORY CARD at her clinic? I do not have to bother or to prove anything to YOU here, but if that will stop you from throwing insulting comments then I am more than willing to show you. Edited March 15, 2009 by dazzlingme Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lady Jane 0 Report post Posted March 17, 2009 I did carbon laser treatment for my open pores last week but doesnt really yield result. I wonder if I should go for IPL instead. Appreciate advice from the wise ones here. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sugababenice 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2009 dazzlingme, hi. i wan to ask are u using dr christina chea cleanser? becoz it like nt suitable to me. my whitehead are increasing.. and have u use the acne gel which for day n night? becoz the staff ask me to apply it on where has keras keras thing inside ( i think is whitehead). but i cant c any improvement. do u know what is d function for the acne gel? hi,ex88, im sugababenice...may i know what is prob for ur face...last timei got do d MN at Dr.christina chea thr, but i jz doing 2 times only, coz later on dun hv $$$ laio...then should wait me earn more$$$ to do it...I very love that de result of doing mn...but now i having a big prob..that's same wit your...dun know why my forehead suddenly pop out man whitehead n pimples..i oso very worry about it..u got use d acne gel o not? will effective? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sugababenice 0 Report post Posted March 22, 2009 hi suga,i;m a doc(aesthetic)..straight to ur 'q'..deep acne scar..go for the latest laser..or do microneedling where the doc MST do subexcision to release the fibrous tissues attached to the base of the scar..then only can get effective results.Most of the doc can nego the price la cos ur a student mah.pssst..bring ur mom along..got c,card can pay installemtns mah..hehe.. what is de mst?do wat subexcision?i dun understand those things?u got open ur own clinic?o ur r skin specialist?im very worried my skin now...last time i got do MN at Dr.christina thr...i very like de result aft doing de treatment...but now im not doing ady..coz dun hv$$$..but i wanna ask ur that MN can effectively remove whitehead o not?de headache things is my "whitehead"...i wanna cure my skin since at teenagers time i facing this "acne scar" prob.. can ur talk more about laser..but it is very expensive 2 me...which can find this treatment.i plan that do the MN after i earn $$$ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr.alv 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 what is de mst?do wat subexcision?i dun understand those things?u got open ur own clinic?o ur r skin specialist?im very worried my skin now...last time i got do MN at Dr.christina thr...i very like de result aft doing de treatment...but now im not doing ady..coz dun hv$$..but i wanna ask ur that MN can effectively remove whitehead o not?de headache things is my "whitehead"...i wanna cure my skin since at teenagers time i facing this "acne scar" prob.. can ur talk more about laser..but it is very expensive 2 me...which can find this treatment.i plan that do the MN after i earn $$ hi suga,the word mst=must,sory,short form,hehe.Ya,i got own clinic,but to be frank,prefer u go to see the same doc whom can give u effective results,heard tat ur very satisfy with dr.christ MN,only thing is the $$,so be frank with her,i'm sure she can arrange good terms with u.MN not meant for white head /blackhead removal,purely for depressed scarring nia. well,laser there are so many types & so many usage,different types of laser meant to be used for different problems,but now there are many combinations which meant that 1 laser combines with different wavelength then can produced different usage.For acne scarring itself,previously there are abt 4-5 machines which can yield good results.latest is DEKA(dot) laser.u can cek internet for it. ,new scars easier to treat then old scars due to dead skin & fibrous tissue around it.so get it done lor.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ex88 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 hi,ex88, im sugababenice...may i know what is prob for ur face...last timei got do d MN at Dr.christina chea thr, but i jz doing 2 times only, coz later on dun hv $$$ laio...then should wait me earn more$$$ to do it...I very love that de result of doing mn...but now i having a big prob..that's same wit your...dun know why my forehead suddenly pop out man whitehead n pimples..i oso very worry about it..u got use d acne gel o not? will effective? yes, i m using d acne gel and its effective for my acne but seem like not so effective to my whitehead. SAD... T.T but my pimple is become smaller and do not pop out. may i have ur b4 and after pic? becoz i interested to do MN. i ll send u a msg.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ex88 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 yea.. she told me, ' huh? it has nothing to do with dehydration. i think it's because your face has been cleared up.. so the pores look bigger.' and then i was like.... 'uhhh.... what do you mean?' ... *sweat* what a lame reason. anyway, now i keep doing hydrating mask.. i guess the reason why my pores became larger after the 4th treatment is because i kept applying purifying lotion on my face everyday that contributed to dehydration. now i reduce the usage of it.. instead i apply more hydrator and hydrating mask. hope the condition will be improved after my 5th session later. worried.... honeylicious, how ur skin now?? have u done ur 5th session of MD? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SukiDayo 0 Report post Posted March 23, 2009 hi guys, just wanted to know.. between chemical peeling / MD / MN / other method available, which one can help to lighten pigmentation? i have a quite serious pigmentation problem here.. heard from my fren (she get info from La Confiance at Kepong/Klang) that "dotting" can disappear my pigmentation.. but she never try before, just merely suggesting to me..anyone tried it before? help me.. i wan to clear my pigmentation! thanks a million.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr.alv 0 Report post Posted March 26, 2009 hi ..i also wan to know wat is DOT method..only thing so far DOT is related to DEKA latest laser machine which are used for acne scarring + resurfacing + keloids.Pigmentation is very interesting subject..hehe..see got anyting new which we can share here. also noticed tat chemical peels hv better effect then dermabrasion,but subject to the person whom doing it.kam siah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gingerbreadwoman 0 Report post Posted March 27, 2009 dr.alv wow yes r...chemical peels betta den microderm?coz i m thinking to switch to microderm.previously i m doin AHA peels n find dat results arent so obvious.hmm...slow.coz i juz finis my 5th treatment of AHA peels.it is helpful in terms of making scars smoother but to eradicate it,it is still lite nt working.mayb nid to do more treatments ba. previously suffer frm acne b4 n nw,i still haf a few active acne on my face n looooots of red n brownish scars dat r so hard to b cured.worst part is tht ppl still think dat i haf lots of pimples due to da existing scars.Seems tht scars r so hard to b healed. n personally thinking,to all babes out there quality of skin is sumtink dats being inherited frm parents.dats y sum ppl haf vry nice skin although they nvr reli spend a lot of money in it..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aya brea 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2009 Hi, i finally managed to upload my before and after photos as promised for the miracle of microneedling. Pls take a look, microneedling really saves my life!! Visit My Website Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sugababenice 0 Report post Posted March 28, 2009 hi suga,the word mst=must,sory,short form,hehe.Ya,i got own clinic,but to be frank,prefer u go to see the same doc whom can give u effective results,heard tat ur very satisfy with dr.christ MN,only thing is the $,so be frank with her,i'm sure she can arrange good terms with u.MN not meant for white head /blackhead removal,purely for depressed scarring nia. well,laser there are so many types & so many usage,different types of laser meant to be used for different problems,but now there are many combinations which meant that 1 laser combines with different wavelength then can produced different usage.For acne scarring itself,previously there are abt 4-5 machines which can yield good results.latest is DEKA(dot) laser.u can cek internet for it. ,new scars easier to treat then old scars due to dead skin & fibrous tissue around it.so get it done lor.. OIC ..U GOT OPEN UR OWN CLINIC..AT WHR?SO HOW MUCH FOR DE DEKA LASER?....IF COMPARE WIT THE MN N LASER?WHICH IS DE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY 2 REMOVE ACNE SCAR?I WILL STILL CONTINUE DOING DE MN O MD AT THR..NOW VERY VERY HARD EARNING MONEY B4 FINISH MY SEM BREAK....I REALLLY DUN WAN MY FACE GOT ACNE SCAR SINCE TEENAGERS...WHY OTHER PPL GOT DE SMOOTH SKIN...HAIZZZ..REALLY REALLY HAVE TO BE PATIENT FOR DOING DE MN... I WAN ASK UR THAT IF V GO DO FACIAL TREATMENT AT BEAUTY SALOON OK O NOT?WHICH METHOD CAN PERMANENTLY N EFFECTIVELY REMOVE THOSE SCAR? U GOT HEARD CRYSTAL DERMABRASION Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
honeylicious 0 Report post Posted March 29, 2009 honeylicious, how ur skin now?? have u done ur 5th session of MD? done my 5th session. still, the pores look visible. sigh... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr.alv 0 Report post Posted March 30, 2009 OIC ..U GOT OPEN UR OWN CLINIC..AT WHR?SO HOW MUCH FOR DE DEKA LASER?....IF COMPARE WIT THE MN N LASER?WHICH IS DE MOST EFFECTIVE WAY 2 REMOVE ACNE SCAR?I WILL STILL CONTINUE DOING DE MN O MD AT THR..NOW VERY VERY HARD EARNING MONEY B4 FINISH MY SEM BREAK....I REALLLY DUN WAN MY FACE GOT ACNE SCAR SINCE TEENAGERS...WHY OTHER PPL GOT DE SMOOTH SKIN...HAIZZZ..REALLY REALLY HAVE TO BE PATIENT FOR DOING DE MN... I WAN ASK UR THAT IF V GO DO FACIAL TREATMENT AT BEAUTY SALOON OK O NOT?WHICH METHOD CAN PERMANENTLY N EFFECTIVELY REMOVE THOSE SCAR? U GOT HEARD CRYSTAL DERMABRASION hi..normall deka laser the doc charges abt 1.5-2k persession,or packages 2k for 2 sessions etc..anyway as i said u can always nego with the doc.MN is totally different,cos the needles itself is so expensive,ranging from 240-800 depends on type,length,numbers of needles etc,but generally is the doc skills the upmost important.i still in contact with many beauty saloons,as long as the beautician knows wat she is doing,then the results should be OK.jst imagine a car everyday polished also can be shining.BUT NOT ON THE FACE.so think carefully,get some infos on where to go for beauty saloons,wat they do?why they do tis?any gimmicks behind it?then u can be rest assure to put ur face on their hands. MN is good,but always do subexcision,the results wil be even better. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BBQ 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 here i wan to tell u an important information!!! Dun do MD too many sessions(1 or 2 is enuf), it will cause ur skin becum nipis n nipis, open pore becum bigger n bigger!! if u still taking a long course of MD, stop it immediately!! if not u ll regrat like me... T.T becoz i did MD before, i noticed that my scar did not reduce but seem it is increasing (becoz open pore is increasing and actually not scar). Now vry hard to cure my open pore, so sad!! Besides, after u done MD, u ll feel ur skin become vry smooth if u touch it, but if u c by ur EYE, scar is still visible!! Pls inform all babes!! stop doing MD!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashalisa17 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 Microdermabrasion treatment is not a suitable treatment problem. dermabrasion is for middle age skin with pigmentation problems. dermabrasion will cause top skin to be removed and the underlining layer will be damaged when u go out in the sun. chemical peel is not good bec it uses strong chemicals and will damage skin especially sensitive skin. currently what products are u using? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ashalisa17 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 here i wan to tell u an important information!!! Dun do MD too many sessions(1 or 2 is enuf), it will cause ur skin becum nipis n nipis, open pore becum bigger n bigger!! if u still taking a long course of MD, stop it immediately!! if not u ll regrat like me... T.T becoz i did MD before, i noticed that my scar did not reduce but seem it is increasing (becoz open pore is increasing and actually not scar). Now vry hard to cure my open pore, so sad!! Besides, after u done MD, u ll feel ur skin become vry smooth if u touch it, but if u c by ur EYE, scar is still visible!! Pls inform all babes!! stop doing MD!!! I heard SKINCODE can repair the texture of your Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
honeylicious 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 here i wan to tell u an important information!!! Dun do MD too many sessions(1 or 2 is enuf), it will cause ur skin becum nipis n nipis, open pore becum bigger n bigger!! if u still taking a long course of MD, stop it immediately!! if not u ll regrat like me... T.T becoz i did MD before, i noticed that my scar did not reduce but seem it is increasing (becoz open pore is increasing and actually not scar). Now vry hard to cure my open pore, so sad!! Besides, after u done MD, u ll feel ur skin become vry smooth if u touch it, but if u c by ur EYE, scar is still visible!! Pls inform all babes!! stop doing MD!!! my pores do become more visible. but is MD really that bad? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sugababenice 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 yesterday i got do my 1st microdermabrasion, but is less painful than Mn....and oso less red as the MN do....if any babe got any open pores, can hv a try on MN...it is very works for de scar n open pores prob..now i manybe take 1 or 2 treatment of Md...coz recently i pop out many whitehead...Dr. christina said maybe i wrongly use product n my hormon inbalance prob..nearly a half year din continue my treatmnet n de product at dr. christina...dr really is a nice nice dr.. never have been seen...she knows my financial problem plus im a still a student...then she was given me a good prices...i wish i can continued de MN...after de MD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sugababenice 0 Report post Posted April 4, 2009 dr.alv wow yes r...chemical peels betta den microderm?coz i m thinking to switch to microderm.previously i m doin AHA peels n find dat results arent so obvious.hmm...slow.coz i juz finis my 5th treatment of AHA peels.it is helpful in terms of making scars smoother but to eradicate it,it is still lite nt working.mayb nid to do more treatments ba. previously suffer frm acne b4 n nw,i still haf a few active acne on my face n looooots of red n brownish scars dat r so hard to b cured.worst part is tht ppl still think dat i haf lots of pimples due to da existing scars.Seems tht scars r so hard to b healed. n personally thinking,to all babes out there quality of skin is sumtink dats being inherited frm parents.dats y sum ppl haf vry nice skin although they nvr reli spend a lot of money in it..... i agree wit u..my problem oso inherited from parents..why the god not fair to me....giving a face wit acne scar...some ppl can own their good skin even though not much care about their skin....or u can try mn...is effective for scar.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dazzlingme 0 Report post Posted April 6, 2009 i have done almost 20 microderm treatment and my skin is still ok now .. like i say everyone here shud listen ! treatment varies from individual, if u find it not good, then stop. if u find it good then continue;..it is jus as simple as it is..... whut is bad for you might be good for others mayb? i have done almost 20 treatments and i dont feel my skin is becoming thinner nor im gettin dark spots.... the key is to find the perfect most suitable treatment for our skin ler...right now i hv stopped using all acne based products ...that is how much microderm has helped me ler Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
matti 0 Report post Posted April 7, 2009 i have done almost 20 microderm treatment and my skin is still ok now .. like i say everyone here shud listen ! treatment varies from individual, if u find it not good, then stop. if u find it good then continue;..it is jus as simple as it is..... whut is bad for you might be good for others mayb? i have done almost 20 treatments and i dont feel my skin is becoming thinner nor im gettin dark spots.... the key is to find the perfect most suitable treatment for our skin ler...right now i hv stopped using all acne based products ...that is how much microderm has helped me ler hi i am interested with MD..hv few questions here. MD is gd for what kind of acne scar? what kind of scar u hv whn u went for MD? raised scar? pitted scar? sunken scar? got scar marks rite?reddish or brownish kind? does MD help to clear whiteheads as well? what was the result after your 1st MD? scar lightened? hows the whiteheads condition after that?do u have pimples popping out after the 1st trial? i knw diff ppl will have diff result, jus wana take it as reference. thksssss Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr.alv 0 Report post Posted April 9, 2009 hi i am interested with MD..hv few questions here. MD is gd for what kind of acne scar? what kind of scar u hv whn u went for MD? raised scar? pitted scar? sunken scar? got scar marks rite?reddish or brownish kind? does MD help to clear whiteheads as well? what was the result after your 1st MD? scar lightened? hows the whiteheads condition after that?do u have pimples popping out after the 1st trial? i knw diff ppl will have diff result, jus wana take it as reference. thksssss hi..MD is good for mild sunken scar,but mst do very aggresively in order to see good results.Reddish/brownish red means there is still relatively good blood supply of blood to the area,good results.It can help to clear out thewhiteheads as well as blackheads.1ST MD u should be able to appreciate the dryness of the skin,mild flaky scales drop off eventually few days later with proper hydration the skin becomes smooth & supple.YES,there are chances tat pimples pop out (which is due to blockage of previous comedones). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ex88 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2009 QUOTE (BBQ @ Apr 4 2009, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>here i wan to tell u an important information!!!Dun do MD too many sessions(1 or 2 is enuf), it will cause ur skin becum nipis n nipis, open pore becum bigger n bigger!!if u still taking a long course of MD, stop it immediately!! if not u ll regrat like me... T.T becoz i did MD before, i noticed that my scar did not reduce but seem it is increasing (becoz open pore is increasing and actually not scar). Now vry hard to cure my open pore, so sad!! Besides, after u done MD, u ll feel ur skin become vry smooth if u touch it, but if u c by ur EYE, scar is still visible!!Pls inform all babes!! stop doing MD!!!I think MD is not that bad gua... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BBQ 0 Report post Posted April 10, 2009 (edited) [quote name='ex88' post='553091' date='Apr 10 2009, 09:40 PM']I think MD is not that bad gua...[/quotehttp://www.cellnique.com/skinproblem/skin_...ProblemDetail=1Pls view this website.. and read through it. believe me la...it has mentioned "Deeper peels may cause scars to appear larger as the deeper and wider scar layers are exposed." Edited April 10, 2009 by BBQ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
